Showing posts with label Black Panther. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Black Panther. Show all posts

Saturday, May 18, 2019

Avengers: Endgame. What the Hell is Wrong with the Fans?

On this post, C flies solo, so don't blame T for it's content!


I was planning to write a rather extensive review of  “Avengers: Endgame” that dealt with the film’s numerous faults and my dismay at not having enjoyed it even remotely as much as its brilliant predecessor. I had my bullet points ready and was prepared to be the lone voice in the wilderness of adoring sycophants daring to say the emperor had holes in his underwear (with apologies to Bud Bundy).

Yep, that was the plan. But two things happened that changed all that:

First, amidst the enormous groundswell of initial praise, I started noticing quite the opposite. Obviously there are always people poised to hate a popular thing, but even when discounting those types, there was still a rather vocal minority pointing out the film’s many shortcomings. And they had well thought out reasons!

Some of these people absolutely hated the movie. I didn’t. There were some good moments just not enough of them to justify the film’s three-hour runtime. I found the film uneven, as if it had been shot using an outline rather than a completed, polished script. Some of the character beats were poorly chosen and rendered and the entire plot felt lazy and phoned-in. I feel let down and it has diminished my interest in the MCU to the point where I doubt I will allow myself to become invested in an ongoing story arc again.

Still, like-minded people weren’t enough to change my plans. That’s where the second thing comes in.

Anybody who expressed dislike or even disappointment with the movie was immediately attacked by those who loved it like white blood cells to a virus. It’s easy to dismiss them as paid Disney trolls but let’s be honest: That’s total horseshit. Disney has no need for such things because real people are beyond willing to devote their time and energy to defending them whenever someone has the nerve to not heap praise. This is especially true regarding the MCU which, at this point, can do no wrong to its cadre of unquestioning devotees.

They are fanatics. The Marvel movies are their god and they will keyboard warrior like mad to prevent any perceived blasphemy against him. So, like any fanatics worth their glassy-eyed stare, they label those of us who don’t agree with names designed to make us look like either terrible people or those who have yet to accept the good news. There’s also another facet to their fanaticism that most people might not recognize...they speak their own language. Words that don’t mean what they think they mean are used to continue their bizarre, pointless agenda.

Much like how Evangelical Christians and Jehovah’s Witnesses use “worldly” as an insult when its true meaning is complimentary, the MCU cult uses phrases such as “DC fanboy” as if it means anything more than someone who considers DC Comics their favorite comics publisher. The same thing was done to the word “liberal” in the 1980s, a tactic that proved so successful, liberals started calling themselves “progressives” instead.
In the right (or wrong, depending upon your point of view) hands, re-engineering language can be a powerful tool for controlling how people view things.

We have entered a time when even disagreement over a movie can turn ugly. Since I expected something like this to happen, I decided to sit back and observe. Whenever I saw someone on an “Endgame” related Facebook post make any sort of non--fawning comment about the movie,  I clicked on it to read the reactions. True to form, the majority were antagonistic, hostile, dismissive and, in some cases, demeaning. Two weeks after the initial giddiness had worn off, however, I started noticing a small but steady wave of people daring to share negative opinions. Some of them were obvious trolls, of course, and some were far less kind to the movie than I’ve been, but the response was the same no matter what.

I finally decided to see about getting a substantive response to why these clearly insecure fanatics are responding this way. To do that, I decided to choose a thread where the initial comment was resoundingly negative.

I agreed with some of the original commenter’s points but not all of them. Again, I did not hate the movie. I found it underwhelming with a lackluster second act (my normal criticism of problematic movies is the third act) and a victim of lazy, phoned-in writing but there were moments that were very enjoyable. Just not enough of them considering the near perfection of its predecessor.

It didn’t take long for the guy to be labelled a troll; jokes were hurled at him implying he’d been molested as a child (some obscene metaphor online jerks use to indicate your dissenting opinion comes from striking back at the world because you were tampered with) and a “Butthurt DC fanboy,” which is apparently the worst thing one can be in the eyes of a MCU Zombie. The original commenter seemed to find this all rather amusing while I decided to use it as a way to see if I could get a better idea of their so-called thought-processes.

I wrote, “I found the movie disappointing and lackluster. Am I a butthurt DC fanboy, too?”

The response, “You either are or you’re not,” came straight from the fanatic’s songbook. In fact, it’s a paraphrase of a response I received when I asked a religious fanatic if I was going to Hell for not being a believer.

I repeated the question. To my pleasant surprise, the second response was measured and thoughtful. He informed me his comments were really about the people who slammed the movie with words such as “sucks” and “garbage etc. I thanked him for the reply and the adult way he did it. One other person was not so mature and I had to remind him I’m not his “bro.”

It occured to me that the guy with whom I’d mostly interacted was probably caught up in a moment of fanatical fervor. He also likely realized how like the original commenter was coming across when I did not react with hostility. Sometimes it is possible to make a fanatic think.

Now if we could just do something about that toxic “Star Wars” fanbase.


Thursday, January 31, 2019

The Proper Re-Watching Order for MCU Movies Prior to the Next "Avengers" Film.

We've seen several lists online supposedly giving people the best watching list for those MCU movies that lead up to the events of "Avengers Infinity War" and it's upcoming sequel. Frankly, they're all terrible. They either omit films with direct references in them or basically list nearly every film released in some bizarre "learn who the characters are" approach.

We realized after looking at those other lists that the authors of them seemed to be stuck in introductory mode. Instead, ours presumes you have seen most of the films and are interested in just re-watching those that connect to the main thread of the first three Phases.

Below, we attempt to list the actual relevant films in order:


Captain America: The First Avenger- Five movies in, this is literally the first MCU film that directly references the Infinity Stones. It also serves as a beginning point for the entire series as it takes place earlier than any other film so far. The Tesseract, as it's referred to in the movies, is the Soul Stone and the main quest of the movie's protagonist.

Thor: This one can also be watched first, but the events of Loki's fall from false grace lead directly into the first Avengers film.

The Avengers- This one's a no-brainer because it is centered around the moment an Infinity Stone is being used to try and subjugate all of humanity. We also catch a glimpse of Thanos, albeit in slightly different form.

Iron Man 3- There's no real Infinity War connection in this one but it deals with Tony Stark's/Iron Man's PTSD following the events of the Battle of New York in "The Avengers" and sets up his lack of sound judgment by the time the second Avengers rolls around.

Captain America: Civil War- Easily in the top three MCU movies, this one sets up the eventual conflict between Tony Stark and Steve Rogers, introduces us to the modern-day Hydra, the Winter Soldier, Black Panther and Wakanda and The Fall of S.H.I.E.L.D

Guardians of the Galaxy- Not a beloved movie by at least one of this blog's authors, it can't be denied that is sets up the whole "cosmic" angle of the MCU, gives us a history lesson on Infinity Stones and shows us Thanos in a speaking role for the first time. That makes it essential viewing.

Avengers: Age of Ultron- This is the movie that ramps up the bad decisions Tony Stark starts making. It features the Infinity Stone from the first movie, Stark's attempt to create an Earthly defense system that morphs into a psychotic, egocentric android, and the creation of the Vision.

Doctor Strange- Probably the most Infinity Stone-connected film in the series, this one shows us there's another Infinity Stone on Earth, that there are magic wielders, that time travel is a definite option and that there are not just other planets but other dimensions.

Black Panther- This one has a tenuous connection to the Infinity Stone storyline, but it does expand on Wakanda, the Earthly showdown location in "Infinity War" and gives us a better idea of why and how they're so much more advanced than the rest of the world.

Thor: Ragnarok- We find out where Thor has been during all the tumult on Earth as well as what happened to Loki after he pretended to be Odin in the second Thor film (that one wasn't included because of its storyline). We also get an even larger view of the cosmic side of the MCU and, most importantly, it ends mere minutes before the events of "Infinity War."

Happy re-watching!






Tuesday, January 22, 2019

A Discussion on the apparent Oscar-worthiness of "Black Panther"

Most of us remember a time when genre films, i.e. science fiction, horror, fantasy, were regularly dismissed by the Academy Awards as disposable, silly kiddie fare. Those days appear to be at an end, however, as generations of people who grew up on genre movies and books have started influencing the box office in a very different direction. Plus, the Marvel Cinematic Universe has done a pretty good job of establishing the comics medium as not only a popular format for adapting to the big screen, it has also proven that quality writing and film making and acting can "elevate" the medium. That word is in quotes because the presumption that comic books needed to be elevated at all is a debatable one.

After nineteen successful movies in its ongoing franchise, the MCU has finally achieved an Oscar nomination with "Black Panther," the massive hit about a secret African nation called Wakanda that was only pretending to be an agro-economy but is actually the most advanced nation on Earth. The Black Panther is the nation's king and he...you know what? If you're clueless enough not to know about this shit a year after it came out, do your own damn research.

Below is the conversation that took place between T&C. We agreed to make this our first discussion post because we disagree about this movie's Oscar worthiness.

T: Did you hear about "Black Panther" being nominated for Oscars?
C: Ridiculous.
T: WHAT!?
C: Ri-cock-ulous?
T: "Black Panther" was awesome. I do believe "Logan" warranted a few nominations but I think "Black Panther" earned the ones listed. I would have a problem if it got nominated for best special effects.
C: Because the effects often looked fake and unfinished or because that's the award they throw at every genre film?
T: The first part.
C: The third act was where that movie's effects really started to shine. Up until then the effects work was very uneven.
T: But the actual nominations are well-deserved.
C: The acting was sub-par,.The writing was uneven. The direction was amateurish. It was an enjoyable movie at best but certainly nowhere near Oscar caliber.
T: Wow.
C: Why are you acting like this is a surprise? We saw it together. I'm sure you could tell how unimpressed I was.
T: True.
C: I didn't want to say anything when we saw it but much of the time I was bored out of my mind even more than I was during "Civil War." This type of film is not Ryan Coogler's thing. Maybe Ridley Scott was right.
*Ridley Scott recently criticized movie studios for giving huge movies to directors with no experience and, in his view, it shows.
T: As far as the acting, I did find Forrest Whitaker annoying and was glad when Kilmonger killed him but I was fine with everybody else. He had the worst accent.
C: Yeah, when the hell did he become such a bad actor? He was one of the greats! I'm thinking of his scenery chewing in "Rogue One."
T: He was annoying in that, too! I was glad glad to see him him die in that as well.
C: Me too.
T: I don't think he's a bad actor, I just believe his acting has a limited range of versatility and both movies were WAAAYYYY beyond his range.
C: If he were here, he'd give you Forrest Whitaker eye.
T: He wouldn't be able to help himself.
C: Getting back to "Black Panther," I felt the movie fell into the same category as "Captain America Civil War" and "Spider-Man: Homecoming." Over-hyped movies that fell short and were a mess on most levels until their respective third acts. Marvel really knows how to make a third act pay off.
T: What!? No.
C:
T: LOL!!!
C: Discussion over?
T: Okay, "Civil War" definitely matches that description. "Spider-Man: Homecoming" gets a borderline "yes" and "Justice League" gets a "hell yes!" Oh, and the theatrical cut of "Batman vs. Superman."
C: Don't bring DC into this, you Marvel Zombie! Although you have a point with Spidey. It would have needed a plot to qualify for that description.
T; I agree. I believe what they were trying to do was get straight to the point and spend as little time on the origin story as possible. It's been told enough times.
C: His and Batman's...and that one guy they names Xmas after.
T: Heathen.
C: Look, "Black Panther: is definitely a film that belongs in the Smithsonian for its cultural significance and all the records it set and having the character as part of the MCU opens up a lot of possibilities. But if I have to judge the award merits based on the film as conceived and produced, I don't feel it deserves a Best picture nomination. "Logan," on the other hand, did and was robbed. Actually, the acting in the X-Men franchise is often vastly superior to the MCU. "Days of Future Past" might be the best acted comic book team movie of all time. Here come the hate comments.
T: Actually, I can't hate you for that one.
C: I didn't mean you.
T: I know.
C: Again, I didn't hate the movie. I enjoyed it overall. Maybe if it had come out ten years earlier, I would've been right there praising it as some cinematic revelation but there's been a lot of competition. I still consider "Winter Solder" the gold standard for MCU films.
T: That's a great choice.
C: You're starting to agree with me, aren't you?
T: Nope!
C: Don't you want to yell, "Wakanda Forever"?
T: I'll wait until it takes home the Best Picture Oscar.
C: That would be amazing. An actual high quality superhero movie could win next time.
T: Dick.







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